Posts by Richard C B

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Cult or Religion

by Richard C B in

what is a cult and what is a religion?

its open to debate.

who has the authority to say for certain what is a cult and what is a religion?

What is a cult and what is a religion? Its open to debate. Who has the authority to say for certain what is a cult and what is a religion? I think that the individual creates the cult status in his or hers mind from personal experience and how that particular person has allowed themselves to be conditioned and how they have personally interpreted how the religion has had an impact on there life over a period of time. The cult status is only evident to them when they leave that said religion and become resentful and regret choices they have made because at the time they made decisions which may have been greatly influenced by there beliefs. Or someone may after leaving that said religion, on bad terms, have an axe to grind and go out of there way to convince themselves and others its a cult.

Just throwing it out there maybe my opinion is wrong I dont know but what do you guys think?

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Ebay Idiot

by slimboyfat in

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who is this ebay idiot who keeps trying to sell "undisclosed rare watchtower items" for ridiculous sums of money?.

http://cgi.ebay.com/extremely-rare-watchtower-jehovahs-witness-collectible_w0qqitemz4622536407qqcategoryz378qqrdz1qqcmdzviewitem.

http://cgi.ebay.com/jws-watchtower-related-pyramidology-collectible-oddity_w0qqitemz4622460580qqcategoryz378qqrdz1qqcmdzviewitem.

Richard C B

haha I dont understand why you have an issue with this. Are you jealous or something? I knew a brother once who got a load of old books from an old sister, who was having a clear out, and among the books were some old Judge Rutherfood books he sold them on an auction site for a tidy sum. I didnt have a problem with that.

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Apostate views?

by Richard C B in

if a brother is starting to look at material on the internet and starts to have serious doubts about the jw organisation and questions the integrity of the governing body.

what steps would be taken to by the congregation to readjust his thinking.

and also if the congregation is not aware of this but he has confided in an individual how would that individual try to help such a brother?.

Richard C B

@driving force... not wanting to get off the subject here but what is Gods name then?

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Apostate views?

by Richard C B in

if a brother is starting to look at material on the internet and starts to have serious doubts about the jw organisation and questions the integrity of the governing body.

what steps would be taken to by the congregation to readjust his thinking.

and also if the congregation is not aware of this but he has confided in an individual how would that individual try to help such a brother?.

Richard C B

@stuckin... interesting point about motives. Maybe he is looking for a way out to justify himself. hence being not accountable to anyone. That could be the real issue behind it.

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Apostate views?

by Richard C B in

if a brother is starting to look at material on the internet and starts to have serious doubts about the jw organisation and questions the integrity of the governing body.

what steps would be taken to by the congregation to readjust his thinking.

and also if the congregation is not aware of this but he has confided in an individual how would that individual try to help such a brother?.

Richard C B

@ ABIBLESTUDENT thanks for the input. maybe getting off the topic slightly?

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Apostate views?

by Richard C B in

if a brother is starting to look at material on the internet and starts to have serious doubts about the jw organisation and questions the integrity of the governing body.

what steps would be taken to by the congregation to readjust his thinking.

and also if the congregation is not aware of this but he has confided in an individual how would that individual try to help such a brother?.

Richard C B

@Giordano Thanks for the advice, Ive had a few days thinking about this prior to my post and I was thinking along the same lines as you. My advice to him would be to keep his thoughts to himself and not to express them inside the congregation, I feel it would do more harm than good. Like you say there would be no room for a debate. And better to drift out than make a rod for your own back.

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Apostate views?

by Richard C B in

if a brother is starting to look at material on the internet and starts to have serious doubts about the jw organisation and questions the integrity of the governing body.

what steps would be taken to by the congregation to readjust his thinking.

and also if the congregation is not aware of this but he has confided in an individual how would that individual try to help such a brother?.

Richard C B

Thanks everyone I got to log out off to work Ill check anymore posts later

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Apostate views?

by Richard C B in

if a brother is starting to look at material on the internet and starts to have serious doubts about the jw organisation and questions the integrity of the governing body.

what steps would be taken to by the congregation to readjust his thinking.

and also if the congregation is not aware of this but he has confided in an individual how would that individual try to help such a brother?.

Richard C B

@Koncept.. excellent point. I think that is what is going to be the determining factor for him. Thanks for the advice.

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Apostate views?

by Richard C B in

if a brother is starting to look at material on the internet and starts to have serious doubts about the jw organisation and questions the integrity of the governing body.

what steps would be taken to by the congregation to readjust his thinking.

and also if the congregation is not aware of this but he has confided in an individual how would that individual try to help such a brother?.

Richard C B

@toesup That would be pointless doing more if your starting to not believe in it. Bad advice I think

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Apostate views?

by Richard C B in

if a brother is starting to look at material on the internet and starts to have serious doubts about the jw organisation and questions the integrity of the governing body.

what steps would be taken to by the congregation to readjust his thinking.

and also if the congregation is not aware of this but he has confided in an individual how would that individual try to help such a brother?.

Richard C B

@freemind... Excellent point about elder types, I think he might be in trouble if he goes to them. He has confided in me im not a baptised brother but I used to study about 10 years back. he is fine talking to me about it.